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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu 30 Apr 2009, 17:17

..erm...dolphin diving is just as bad a hopping though Wink
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu 30 Apr 2009, 18:30

They didnt know that Bau... They are still trying to figure out where they went wrong or why the plan they had didnt work pwnd
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu 30 Apr 2009, 19:16

ozzo wrote:
hi,

ok ithink everything is sorted exept the question of "why was I kicked" not stu, me

"As Said By SLaine.......... You break a rule and we will all verbally say something,
Do it again and you will be kicked. Its that simple"

dead right and i totally agree as we are the same, but i never broke any rules, didn't get any warnings, just got kicked twice i think.

if there is a reason then please tell me,

i thought i may have missed a warning but reading the logs there is nothing

You Should let it lay or Re read it again you two tried to get a Cross Fire Going on me and was getting Worse as the maps when on

Also if you re read it again i did kick you but only once but if you read it again you'll see why plus you left on your own accord the second time i kicked Stu.

You see the BIG Picture yet You and Stu come to our Server He broke the rules and you start running off at the mouth we have a server with rules too but yet he was your guy Breaking our rule and when I Enforced them i was the called (Power Hungry and so on) really impressive there ozzo you both Disrespected me our server and our rules.

I really hope this Cleared any Missing Link's you two might have had.

When i go into a game I want to play Either it is to kill or be killed does not matter i am only here to have fun but when i have to stop playing to enforce the rules on some one and then they want to argue with me as they know what they did and it keeps going then there buddy wants to start in the fun with the mouth and get some kind of cross fire going then it is safe to say the SHIT will hit the Fan as it has.

Now I see your other Member Kab has hit our Server and has been told twice no Hopping are we going to have a Separate thread for him too or should we add it to this one.

If your Members come in trying the Same thing well we both know what will happen for Myself I am not going to hold back as you well know now Others give more Chances but I do Not.

I am Sure you have your little thread going over there and Blazing us but that's OK as we have Posted all Logs and have nothing to hide we don't go to other Clan Sites and Make Comments in a Derogatory Fashion so Blaze away but it wont be here.

All of you are more than welcome to come to our Server and everyone is asked to follow the rules But i Refuse to play them kind of Games with anyone.
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu 30 Apr 2009, 22:29

[quote="Monster~DS~"]
ozzo wrote:
hi,

ok ithink everything is sorted exept the question of "why was I kicked" not stu, me

"As Said By SLaine.......... You break a rule and we will all verbally say something,
Do it again and you will be kicked. Its that simple"

dead right and i totally agree as we are the same, but i never broke any rules, didn't get any warnings, just got kicked twice i think.

if there is a reason then please tell me,

i thought i may have missed a warning but reading the logs there is nothing




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Also if you re read it again i did kick you but only once but if you read it again you'll see why plus you left on your own accord the second time i kicked Stu.


ok you kicked me once, i did say "twice i think" i must be missing the bit in the logs where i'll see why as i have been though 3 times and see nothing, i am not saying it isnt there just please show me





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Now I see your other Member Kab has hit our Server and has been told twice no Hopping are we going to have a Separate thread for him too or should we add it to this one.



i dont care about the debate with stu or cab, stu is sorted and cab is to old in the tooth to go on servers to piss people off intentionly but what happens with them is between you and them



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I am Sure you have your little thread going over there and Blazing us but that's OK as we have Posted all Logs and have nothing to hide we don't go to other Clan Sites and Make Comments in a Derogatory Fashion so Blaze away but it wont be here.

not at all, take a look if u wish even though you proberly wont, to me this is not an argument or anyone being nasty it is just a discussion.
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri 01 May 2009, 03:00

Well then I think it's time to put it to Rest and Move on.

I have been to your site and to your Sever.
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri 01 May 2009, 09:40

now to answer the Q, can we still have this scrim or not?
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri 01 May 2009, 09:46

why is it you still cant give me a direct answer as to why i was kicked?

i dont think that is to much to ask is it?

if there is no reason posted then dont bother answering the question as it is a wast of every ones time and we will all have our own conclusion and in my case you cant or wont answer so
there was no reason
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri 01 May 2009, 09:49

Gasoline~DS~ wrote:
now to answer the Q, can we still have this scrim or not?


hi, we can still have you scrim as long as i get an answer to why i was kicked,

every time i ask i dont get a direct answer,

is it because there was no reason if so just say and that will be that.

i dont think it is to much to ask??
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri 01 May 2009, 16:15

Ozzo Are you really that blind? Its been said multiple times.

When you mouth off to an Admin we have the right to kick for disrespect.

You chimed in multiple times when you werent the one to be in question. Why would you mouth off when they weren't talking to you???(Thats a hypothetical)

This is the reason you were kicked multiple times, Because you kept at it. Instead of just letting your buddy deal with his "Consequence" For not following server rules.

Can we drop this now and Why cant we all just get along!!!!!!!!


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See the pretty girl in that mirror there:
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri 01 May 2009, 16:42

ozzo wrote:


You Should let it lay or Re read it again you two tried to get a Cross Fire Going on me and was getting Worse as the maps when on

Also if you re read it again i did kick you but only once but if you read it again you'll see why plus you left on your own accord the second time i kicked Stu.

You see the BIG Picture yet You and Stu come to our Server He broke the rules and you start running off at the mouth we have a server with rules too but yet he was your guy Breaking our rule and when I Enforced them i was the called (Power Hungry and so on) really impressive there ozzo you both Disrespected me our server and our rules.

I really hope this Cleared any Missing Link's you two might have had.


I Had Answered your Question if need be Reread it again Just your Comments and as I said you and Stu tried a Cross Fire and then YOU Started making the Accusations of me being Power Hungry! ECT.ECT.ECT! as i Was Enforcing OUR SEVER RULES! some one of your age and supposed stature should have already picked up on that by now so if you don't understand that I can not Help you.

I can not and will not Babysit a bunch of adults or kids which ever may be the case that I have to deal with at that Moment and that can not and will not play by someone's rules when they are footing the bill and have to listen to a bunch of BS.

Now i will sum this up for you for the last time read carefully.

What was this whole ordeal about. Breaking the Rules!!! Who STU!!!

Who Opened there Mouth's and started Makeing utter Comments STU AND OZZO!!!

Now who comes to our Forums to Keep the BS Going even after they read the Log's OZZO!!!

Why did OZZO!!! get kicked DISRESPECT!!!!!!

WHO'S FAULT IS IT.

You and I are done with this Conversation you should have stayed out of it to begin with when i was Inforcing the Rule's.
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri 01 May 2009, 18:37

Monster~DS~ wrote:
ozzo wrote:


You Should let it lay or Re read it again you two tried to get a Cross Fire Going on me and was getting Worse as the maps when on

Also if you re read it again i did kick you but only once but if you read it again you'll see why plus you left on your own accord the second time i kicked Stu.

You see the BIG Picture yet You and Stu come to our Server He broke the rules and you start running off at the mouth we have a server with rules too but yet he was your guy Breaking our rule and when I Enforced them i was the called (Power Hungry and so on) really impressive there ozzo you both Disrespected me our server and our rules.

I really hope this Cleared any Missing Link's you two might have had.




firstly i didnt write that quote above


I Had Answered your Question if need be Reread it again Just your Comments and as I said you and Stu tried a Cross Fire and then YOU Started making the Accusations of me being Power Hungry! ECT.ECT.ECT! as i Was Enforcing OUR SEVER RULES! some one of your age and supposed stature should have already picked up on that by now so if you don't understand that I can not Help you.

I can not and will not Babysit a bunch of adults or kids which ever may be the case that I have to deal with at that Moment and that can not and will not play by someone's rules when they are footing the bill and have to listen to a bunch of BS.

Now i will sum this up for you for the last time read carefully.

What was this whole ordeal about. Breaking the Rules!!! Who STU!!!

Who Opened there Mouth's and started Makeing utter Comments STU AND OZZO!!!

Now who comes to our Forums to Keep the BS Going even after they read the Log's OZZO!!!

Why did OZZO!!! get kicked DISRESPECT!!!!!!

WHO'S FAULT IS IT.

You and I are done with this Conversation you should have stayed out of it to begin with when i was Inforcing the Rule's.


this is the conversation that went on when i was kicked
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Monster-DS-;wow ozzo
{P[2]D}>Mr.oZZo;wot
Monster-DS-;YOU TURNED LIKE YOU KNEW WERE I WAS
{P[2]D}>Mr.oZZo;i did, uav
Monster-DS-;NO I ASKED
Monster-DS-;never mind
{P[2]D}>Mr.oZZo;check again press shift and console to read it
Orb-DS-;he asked the rest of us on vent and then we realized none of us were on ur team
Orb-DS-;our bad


umm proved wrong i think......nice 1 orb for admitting it, alot wouldnt have (monster)


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{P[2]D}>Mr.Stu;lol
{P[2]D}>Mr.oZZo;lol ty for saying

no nastyness there......


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Monster-DS-;i said never mind

oh look, attitude i think?


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{P[2]D}>Mr.oZZo;never mind u r wrong ok, ill take thsat as sorry


this was not ment in a nasty or disrepectfull way at all, but yes i was being funny


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Monster-DS-;your not trying to get smart again
{P[2]D}>Mr.oZZo;not smart just right

i proved my point that you are wrong



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{P[2]D}>Mr.Stu;it comes naturally
Orb-DS-;son, i'd wouldn say anymore
{P[2]D}>Mr.Stu;lol yes boss
{P[2]D}>Mr.Stu;nice shot boss
{P[2]D}>Mr.Stu;n1
Monster-DS-;you like that

oh look..im not saying anything

i admit THE NIGHT BEFORE there was a bit of banter but not tonight.

think what you will but the bottem line is "i was right and you where wrong" just like the other situation

but it is just too much for a player with only 300 cod4 playing hours to admit.

as the saying goes "it takes a man to admit they are wrong".......says it all doesnt it.

no more posts from me,

love and kisses oZZo xxx
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri 01 May 2009, 20:27

Nice jab there about the Hours but we dont always log on Xfire to play the GaMe But ok.. I hope you have got this off your chest now.
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri 01 May 2009, 23:24

I say we dont need to waste anymore time wit them. I hate owning a bunch of kids even though we all get a laugh from it.
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat 02 May 2009, 00:17

we'll get a real scrim going soon guys

thanks for the effort Gaso
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat 02 May 2009, 00:50

Yeah Thanks Gas... And Now I will say Piss off P2Dilldos...
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat 02 May 2009, 01:27

To be fair, they weren't all at it and it was one of their own number who informed me of the offences that occurred tonight via Xfire.

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Ultrahaus-DS-;ello ladies
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;good evening
Ultrahaus-DS-;is everyone being good boys and girls in here?
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;sure
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;why not lets go with that
Ultrahaus-DS-;nn (after bein killed by Stu wit a frag)
Ultrahaus-DS-;is ozzo here
Ultrahaus-DS-;tube 1 more time
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;why i gotta tube
Ultrahaus-DS-;you tubing?
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;no you?
Ultrahaus-DS-;wtf do you think?
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;yes
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;yeh i do acctully
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;Smile
Ultrahaus-DS-;water head
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;yh
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;im joking
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;chill dude
Ultrahaus-DS-;dont even start
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;your starting
{P[2]D}Random ;goigogog
Ultrahaus-DS-;who's tubing?
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;im messing
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;you
{P[2]D}Random ;he is not
Ultrahaus-DS-;dude i dont mind kicking you
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;why lol
{P[2]D}Random ;gggot 4 it frack nub
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;i didnt do anything
Jimmy;what is tubing ?
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;what so ever
Ultrahaus-DS-;ive seen enough on our forums
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;about what
Ultrahaus-DS-;about pd2
{P[2]D}Random ;shut the F*ck up
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;being a better clan and accused of hacking?
Ultrahaus-DS-;dont you have a server?
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;yh
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;and its full without us guys on it
Ultrahaus-DS-;k brb
{P[2]D}>Mr.KaB;behave shitjy
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;Smile
Ultrahaus-DS-;random dont bother comng back..ever
Ultrahaus-DS-;banned
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;lol
{P[2]D}>Mr.KaB;why is he banned
Ultrahaus-DS-;lol
{P[2]D}Random ;got 4 it you frack dick
{P[2]D}Random ;you ur pissing me off you yanke nub
Ultrahaus-DS-;all you noobs are gone have fun while it lasts
Ultrahaus-DS-;lmao
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;whats the requirement for your clan being a yanke piece of shit
{P[2]D}Random ;fuck you like to tk

{P[2]D}>Mr.KaB;im not nub
Ultrahaus-DS-;donr be jeaous noob
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;I AM JESUS
{P[2]D}Random ;yankey r all gay and r fracking priks and need to get a life
Ultrahaus-DS-;bye
{P[2]D}>Mr.Smth;IM GUNNA HACK YOUR SERVER CAUSE I AM TEH ONE AND ONLY JESUS
{P[2]D}Random ;^5yankey r gay
{P[2]D}Random ;DL r pricks

{P[2]D}Random ;kab u gay
{P[2]D}Random ;yankey gay

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Ultrahaus-DS-;you planning on getting the same treatment or are you chill?
{P[2]D}>Mr.KaB;sry about earlier why did i get kickecd
Ultrahaus-DS-;because of your teamamtes i kicked all the p2d's ..sorry if you werent part of it
{P[2]D}>Mr.KaB;np they r just young and silly
{P[2]D}>Mr.KaB;were r u from
Ultrahaus-DS-;lol k
Ultrahaus-DS-;oops
Ultrahaus-DS-;x firing
{P[2]D}>Mr.KaB;were r u from
Ultrahaus-DS-;texas
{P[2]D}>Mr.KaB; superstore lol
Ultrahaus-DS-;eh?
{P[2]D}>Mr.KaB;america
{P[2]D}>Mr.KaB;home to the superstore
Ultrahaus-DS-;ah
{P[2]D}>Mr.KaB;you now ozzo
Ultrahaus-DS-;^5that's how we rolls"
Ultrahaus-DS-;oops

Fair play to Kab for recognising there was an issue, also I would like to say thanks to P2D Stu who wired me off about what was going on.

Stu and me on Xfire.

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{P[2]D}>Stu: just to let you know 1 of our members got banned off your server and rightly so he was being a mouthy little frack it has nothing to do with us i thought id let you know ok and well done to your ultra something cant remember his name but he took no shit thanks again
§lâinê ~Ч~: sorry mate, doin some admin shite here. wot happened, when where who lol
{P[2]D}>Stu: lol
§lâinê ~Ч~: on one of your members, i read it as one of mine ffs lol
§lâinê ~Ч~: eyes like a dogs balls here lol
{P[2]D}>Stu: no worrys 1 of are members was just being a twat and got banned no worrys were not botherd he was rightly banned and say well done to him for banning him
§lâinê ~Ч~: was prob only a temp one, we dont perma band unless your really a cunt ...... and doing it repeatedly lol
{P[2]D}>Stu: lol
{P[2]D}>Stu: well thought id let ya know anyways
§lâinê ~Ч~: pingin ulra now to find out the time for it lol
{P[2]D}>Stu: just about 10 mins ago
{P[2]D}>Stu: i left the server before shit started
{P[2]D}>Stu: AGAIN lol
§lâinê ~Ч~: lol prob a wise move
{P[2]D}>Stu: lol
{P[2]D}>Stu: catch ya later
§lâinê ~Ч~: k laters

Much appreciated Stu.

ozzo wrote:
all im saying is one players actions reflect on the whole team.

Your two members above, coming in to start trouble, are now Depped from all our servers. Official announcement will follow shortly but as of now they ain't getting on any server we run!

We won't judge your entire clan on the actions of these chaps however, the rest of you are free to play on our servers as long as you follow the rules that have been clearly laid out, multiple times.

BTW where it says frack, that is this sites filters kicking in and blocking the proper F word. FYI.
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat 02 May 2009, 02:14

hi,

just to let you know those guys are missing the next 4 matches due to there immaturaty.

i told them to stop when stu told me and they didnt.

and just to get a gold star for me, stu asked me if he should pm you slaine and i said of course

i do appologise for p2d
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PostSubject: Re: scrim   scrim - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSat 02 May 2009, 02:34

Apology accepted Peter and thank you for the prompt response. army
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salute
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§lâinê ~Ч~ wrote:
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No slaine I dont want tooo


Its ok you can delete this just being a smart ass
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