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PostSubject: Heres one for discussion.......   Fri 07 Jan 2011, 17:26

This has been sitting in my email for ages, but as you know I only check my emails once every few months. Check it out, racism from an american viewpoint by none other than Krammer from Seinfeld.

Proud to be White

Michael Richards makes his point................. Michael Richards better known as Kramer from TVs Seinfeld does make a good point. This was his defence speech in court after making racial comments in his comedy act. He makes some very interesting points... Someone finally said it. How many are actually paying attention to this?

"There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc. And then there are just Americans.

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman'... and that's OK.. But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink .. You call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you... so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund.

You have Martin Luther King Day.

You have Black History Month.

You have Cesar Chavez Day.

You have Yom Hashoah.

You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.

You have the NAACP.

You have BET.... If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be racists.

If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists.

If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives, we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that??

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any colour can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships... You know we'd be racists.

There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US .. Yet if there were 'White colleges', that would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud.... But you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists??"

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PostSubject: Re: Heres one for discussion.......   Sat 08 Jan 2011, 12:11

Anyone can be racist ( and if your honest most people are to greater or lesser extents) it's just that for the most part white people just dont give a frack about racial slurs.

As for the rest like scholarships etc i can only speculate as i'm not a yank, but i imagine things like that are in place to try to help address the fact that most of the way (US) society is set up favours helping out the white side of society - this is simple fallout from the time when ya'll had slaves and until American's get over the fact they're decendants may had slaves/may have been slaves - and change they way thier system works, that shit will probably stay in place.

Michael Richards should maybe learn a bit of logic and spend some quality time on google before spraffing such bollocks in future Razz lets have a random look at a few of his points of argument, in no particular order:

'A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any colour can be in the Miss America pageant.' - No shit sherlock!, wouldn't a white woman entering Miss Black America be akin to a man with a duck entering Crufts

'If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives, we'd be racists.' - You do, its called the American Society, fucknut. Your whole country is designed to help white folk, read a book once in a while you might learn something.

'You have Martin Luther King Day' - Has there ever been a white equivalent of this guy? NO, so why the frack do you need a day for one?, oh yeah you dont, stfu and stop whining like a little bitch.

'If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.' - Consider this: Most people only know about the history pertaining to where they live/are raised. So if your raised in a place that's populated predominantly by white peoples, then guess what Annabell - Your history i mostly going to be centred around WHITE people. Go live in Asia and it'll be centered around those cultures. When you take one culture out of its habitat and slap it in another ( by which i am of course reffering to taking Slaves) they dont magically take that historical knowledge with them, they have to learn it. Such events help encourage that shit, get over it.

All in all i think most of what he said was just an attempt at trying to get off whatever charges he was facing and at a glance his arguments may seem sound, however as you can plainly see most, if not all, of his argument really is null and void but knowing the courts in America ( i've seen judge judy ) my money says he'll get off.


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PostSubject: Re: Heres one for discussion.......   Sat 08 Jan 2011, 15:44

Thing is though I have no idea what charges he was facing, all the info that I have was in the email and is posted above.

Depending on what he was actually being accused of he may of actually had a point, I will see if I can find out.

Although this

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but knowing the courts in America ( i've seen judge judy )

made me laugh out fracking loud mate. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Heres one for discussion.......   Sat 08 Jan 2011, 16:15

I was just pointing out that Michael Richards defense seems logical at first glance but in reality has little merit regardless of the exact nature of the comment he made.
As with most things like this it's all about context, as further evidence i'll pass you over to my associate Tim:



As point of reference i also give you what i THINK is the reason as to why he was brought up on charges ( skip to about 2:20 if you want to miss the news info stuff)


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PostSubject: Re: Heres one for discussion.......   Sat 08 Jan 2011, 16:38



True it does depend whats he is on a charge of, it may well be that in modern politically correct era hes being controversially punished..

It says hes a comedian and as am aware in the States there's freedom of speech (supposedly). Now i am not sure if anyone here has ever seen any black American comedian's such as Chris Rock, maybe some of their acts can be deemed "racist"? As its in a comedy act there surely has to be some leeway. I see Frankie Boyle in the press a lot currently being lynched cause of his offensive act. Its becoming ridiculous just how "pc" the worlds becoming..

I do find that in the current day and age there's a lot of contradiction from supposed "minorities". Minorities do seem to pull the "racist" card very regular and without genuine reason. On the other hand they can be racist towards other without any consideration.




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PostSubject: Re: Heres one for discussion.......   Sat 08 Jan 2011, 16:41

So he can't use the N word, but other comedians such as Richard Pryor, Chris Rock, Eddie Murphy can because they happen to be a different skin tone.

Well that was going to be my original response.

After watching footage of it, he deserved to be up in court as he certainly went off the fracking deep end there. That said so did the guy who called him a fracking cracker ass motherfucker, racial insults surely work both ways.

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PostSubject: Re: Heres one for discussion.......   Sat 08 Jan 2011, 16:45



Just seen that video link Kypt, ROTF that wasn't part of his act aye!?!?! fucken hell.. Well maybe he should be punished for that then.. Anyone else would be..


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PostSubject: Re: Heres one for discussion.......   Sat 08 Jan 2011, 18:58

From what i can see he made a public apology and all was good, also it would seem the original email Slaine got, gave fake information:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/m/michael-richards.htm



Not to derail the topic, one thought did occour to me,

' is it possible for a black man to sue another black man for being racist'

The answer surprisingly is YES!

http://destee.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-17608.html
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http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/1/0/9/2/7/p109274_index.html

How fucked up is that?


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PostSubject: Re: Heres one for discussion.......   Sat 08 Jan 2011, 19:24

Damn I got suckered! Rolling Eyes

And we now have a new 'ism in the world, colourism (so new spell check doesn't even recognise it) seriously WTF. Mad

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PostSubject: Re: Heres one for discussion.......   Tue 11 Jan 2011, 20:57

So if a black man can be racist to a black man then i can be racist to a white man?

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PostSubject: Re: Heres one for discussion.......   Tue 11 Jan 2011, 22:34

As fcuked up as that sounds I believe you now can mate! Laughing

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