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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Thu 02 Aug 2012, 21:55

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The father of George H. W. Bush (43rd President of the United States) Prescott Bush was a Nazi and helped Hitlers raise to power.. FACT[/quote

Yep, the Bush's were Nazi sympathizers. So were your royals.....





Who the heck is that marching with SS? OHHH it's Prince Phillip....

Indeed, because they are all cut from the same cloth.. Hitler was taking orders there's no way a lone Austrian artist could of carried out what he is perceived to of committed.. Taking orders just like the dumb fucked empty headed spoilt kid, Bush jr.. Taking orders from you know who.. /cyclops\

Ive never said our countries shit doesn't stink, because in fact in reak's more then most.. I agree 100% the Royal family don't care about anyone apart from other toffs all they do is spend our tax money.. They are pointless and offer fuck all.. But again they are from this same "cloth".. This royal family descended from Germany (Bavaria).. And we know who Bavaria hosted the birth of (and it wasn't Jesus)..

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But on a point made by Mark, Americans do seem to come across very ignorant to anything outside of American. Bau can you clear this up? Or is it a "Because the USA is the best woo!".. Also why do you lot woo everything? wooooo

I figured 'd revive a dead thread with some Yank opinion.

When kids in the US are young, the schools teach us that America is the best, and that the only reason why it is the land of the free and the world isnt speaking some foreign language is because of 'Meruca. We are told that we won every war, (they neglect to mention Vietnam). We are never taught that we arent the defenders of the world, or that our shit doesnt stink. I've had the opportunity to chat with some people form other countries about this stuff and its interesting to see their perspective on these issues. For instance, I was chatting with some Germans about the propaganda that was spewed in WWII. Until i was older, i didnt realize anything else went on in the world. I figured everyone was waiting for the US to do something awesome, then react to it. Then I took a world history, and realized i was completely wrong.

So to summarize, as kids we are taught these things, and some people are too stupid to actually do some research on them.

Also the woo is usually spouted by drunk people who are having a good time.

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here are public schools and the main goal is to indoctrinate the kids into Socialism. They don't teach much geography or about other countries. Maybe in part, because the US is so huge and we're in a world of our own. Fortunately I went to good schools but over here the wealthier the district the better the schools and teachers. The poor schools just try to get them graduated without teaching anything. The poor stay poor because of government subsidizing (welfare). For generations, they have been living off the government tit and my taxes . Why should they want to better themselves when they are getting everything for free and don't have to work? And, they vote for the ones giving them these benefits (Democratic Socialists). The kids will stay dumb as long as those are in power. That's what they want.

One thing has been explained tho.. Seems the American ignorance is taught.. Although i believed ignorance was supposed to be a lack of education..
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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Fri 03 Aug 2012, 02:18

Yep. Same cloth bro. Actually, the Illuminati organization started there in Bavaria, but they didn't invent the philosophies. That shit was going for a long time before that. They just picked up on the mystery religions and esoteric beliefs and knowledge from way before them. From something Slaine brought up earlier, yeah America was founded by and still run by Freemasons. All our public (govt.) buildings have a masonic cornerstone on them...all levels down to city are dominated by them. Lets just say you won't be a mayor, governer, or president without being "in". I believe its the same over there.?

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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Fri 03 Aug 2012, 02:32

Made a reply and it dissappeared, I blame the Masons! Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Fri 03 Aug 2012, 02:41

user error? geek

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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Fri 03 Aug 2012, 23:48

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Who the heck is that marching with SS? OHHH it's Prince Phillip....

Take 2: lets hope the masons aren't watching and I actually get to say my piece this time.

I think you will find that is actually Edward VIII in the picture and not the Greek, Edward was that guy that got married to the twice divorced yank who had nazi sympathies. Served in WW1, got hooked up with some yank slut just before WW2 broke out and was briefly king before being forced to abdicate, I think they made a film about it. Do your fuckin research homes.

On the subject of monarchy however, they are all fucking krauts! They are all from the house of Saxon Coberg and only changed their name at the behest of Parliament during the WW1 to Windsor ..... as it sounded less Germanic. Be bad for moral and all that if it was common knowledge and it came to light it was one royal branch/nation was sending its forces off to fight one of its own cousins armies! I shit you not, again do your research.

That said, I have served Queen and country and I much prefer our system of government to your corrupt Senate and Presidency. Although the royals are nothing more than figure heads with no power Bauh and have been since the time of Cromwell (more research there for ya). As for Masons having any influence in the UK, not really mate. The elite come from certain schools and have the money though I very much doubt any of them roll up the trouser legs and do funny hand shakes ..... although I am sure (and its been proven) that quite a few attend the Bilderberg conferences.

Take from that what you will as I am off to make a hat out of tin foil. pirat

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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Sat 04 Aug 2012, 16:33

Nothing wrong with tin foil hats.. God knows we'll need them!

Although i don't believe that Aliens have reached us yet.. i believe the fixation is an American invention.. there's a lot of big secrets in the States majority from the Cold War.. The UFO's of the 1970's in the states where actually you guys trying to create a vehicle from blueprints you found in Germany, not necessarily for space travel an alternative helicopter if you will.. Also the Lunar Landing America's finest hour was indeed staged at none other then Area 51.. I do believe space travel was completed but not on that first occasion (which also explains why you went back).. You where in a space race with Russia which they was losing and as they knew the Ruskies would be the first to complete such a mission so you resorted to staging the whole thing..
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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Sun 05 Aug 2012, 19:12

Wow when I mentioned we were heading into tin foil hat territory on page 1 of this thread I had no idea we were actually going to get into aliens, UFO's being Nazi designed experimental craft or faked moon landings. Shocked

Aliens are fake, no intelligent being in the universe would ever visit this back water of a planet just to kidnap some cows or anally probe some red necks in east Texas. Is there intelligent life out there in the universe, I would say yes (in fact there is a mathematical equation that proves it) however the chances of it visiting here are slim to fucking none IMHO.

UFO's? Well technically the description fits as they are Unidentified Flying Objects, be they unexplained weather conditions (lightning balls, etc), to aircraft with an unregistered flight path (drug smuggling, government black ops) to the more plausible explanation of the military testing of experimental aircraft. For me the last one fits the bill more likely than the first two, do you think the SR-71 Blackbird spy planes of the 60's to the B-2 Spirits (stealth bombers and the new variants) of recent years were just developed in labs without extensive flight testing. Personally I think playing into the whole Alien paranoia of the US was a perfect way to hide and explain away any sightings of these unidentified craft in US air space during testing.

Now lastly the moon landings! I think you Lee have watched Capricorn One too many times. I believe the lunar landings did indeed happen for one simple reason, there were too many people involved from the astronauts and their families right down to the guy who cuts the grass at NASA to keep such a conspiracy under wraps for so long after the fact. That many people involved, all lying for this amount of time is not plausible. Someone would of cracked/ leaked or sold the true story by now if it was indeed fake, of course that is only MHO and the only way for the landings to be disproved is for someone to go up to the moon and see if all that shite (landing module, the buggy and the flag) are actually there.

Anyone else think this thread deserves a new title, perhaps conspiracy central or something? Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Sun 05 Aug 2012, 20:46

think we should keep this up, print the pages and publish a freakin book this is awesome Razz ahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Sun 05 Aug 2012, 21:17

Well its definitely identifying the nut jobs we have in our ranks, sadly to say its the two usual suspects. jocolor

Not diminishing anyone's theories or beliefs as I honestly believe that discussion is good for the soul and everyone as a whole, as long as its done maturely and without needless bickering. Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Mon 06 Aug 2012, 02:54

im too young and not insane enough to properly contribute to this thread but im finding it very educational and interesting XD
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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Mon 06 Aug 2012, 20:04

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Now lastly the moon landings! I think you Lee have watched Capricorn One too many times. I believe the lunar landings did indeed happen for one simple reason, there were too many people involved from the astronauts and their families right down to the guy who cuts the grass at NASA to keep such a conspiracy under wraps for so long after the fact. That many people involved, all lying for this amount of time is not plausible. Someone would of cracked/ leaked or sold the true story by now if it was indeed fake, of course that is only MHO and the only way for the landings to be disproved is for someone to go up to the moon and see if all that shite (landing module, the buggy and the flag) are actually there.

Anyone else think this thread deserves a new title, perhaps conspiracy central or something? Laughing

Not watched Capricorn One but ill have to give this a watch along with the Di Vinci code!

Not to personally ridicule Americas (surely i wouldn't do such a thing) but their are several inconsistency with the Moon landing. Why would it not come out with so many involved? American pride? The pride of a nation that is so far up its own arse, taking a knock of this scale would be disastrous! Their pride in their nation wouldn't ever let the truth be unveiled. Along with the fact their families would probably be killed, i do wonder how many would actually of know of the staging of this as i don't think the whole of Nasa would of been in on it.. Also explain why Area 51 is so heavily guarded and secretive..

The footage of the landing has several mistakes, firstly and probably the worst cock up.. The wind blowing the flag.. Now how could a rock with no atmosphere generate wind, it can't simply, yet we clearly see the wind blowing the USA flag in dramatic Hollywood fashion. Also there's a clear sky in the backdrop.. Very clear hmmm whats missing.. oh yeah there's no stars! With no atmosphere they should be fkn pretty clear to see! Reflection of wires can be seen on several occasions, on one occasion you can see an astronaut attempting to get to his feet bein lifted where you can obviously see the wire taking his weight.. The no gravity effects is clearly just the real time footage slowed down by 50%.. Theres no blast crater under their space craft.. Theres several irregularities with the shadows, with only one light sauce (the Sun) their shadows shouldn't be going in unparallel directions or in different sized shadows, then there the light on objects which don't match too, all suggesting that there must of been other light sauces.. Also the original footage got erased.. Its all a little convenient..

I could go on but just give the Documentary a quick watch..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8722567021561633304

No ones explained there inconsistencies..


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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Mon 06 Aug 2012, 20:09

ah now i did see on mythbusters that a flag in a vaccume does still wave (but that is an american program so who knows) but your other points do make me wonder


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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Mon 06 Aug 2012, 20:09



beware!
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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Mon 06 Aug 2012, 20:48

watched the video and it does show some pretty convincing evidence against the lunar landings ever happening...hmm tin foil hats are in order i think :L

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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Tue 07 Aug 2012, 20:40

Brilliant evolution of discussion!

I agree with Slaine. They did happen - way to big an operation to cover it up
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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Tue 07 Aug 2012, 20:44

Im now unsure and paranoid about everything...
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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Tue 07 Aug 2012, 20:48

expect it at any time fish


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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Tue 07 Aug 2012, 22:07

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Not watched Capricorn One but ill have to give this a watch along with the Di Vinci code!

You should watch Capricorn One, it involves a similar conspiracy to the one you suggest only the landing site is Mars I believe, was made in the 70's or 80's so its quite old. But it does raise some interesting questions and could probably be accredited with the beginnings of the lunar landing conspiracy. Would give the Di Vinci code a miss tho, its all centered on the Priory of Sion which was proven and admitted to be a fake (shortly after its inception) back in the 70's by one of the French pranksters who thought it up. Though the other protagonist in the film, Opus Dei is indeed real and is sort of like the Scientologist's (as in nut job) section of the Roman Catholic Church.

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Also explain why Area 51 is so heavily guarded and secretive..

Where do you think all the experimental aircraft and various black projects are tested Bro, it was Area 51 otherwise known as the Groom Lake Testing Facility. Both the aircraft I mentioned previously where tested (and they are only what we know of, look into Aurora for the next development stage) and put through through their paces. We are talking big bucks investment by the military complex here, so it should come as no surprise they wish to keep it secret and locked down.

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The footage of the landing has several mistakes, Also the original footage got erased.. Its all a little convenient..

I watched your vid and I will admit it has raised some interesting questions, but not being a physicist nor an astrophysicist I couldn't possibly begin to answer. As I previously said the only way to prove or disprove for sure is to actually send a mission up there to check all the crap is still there. And who knows, even when that is done someone could claim that was faked too. Kind of fucked if you and fucked if you dont kind of thing lol.

As for stuff being destroyed, well I would put that down to the human factor mate. People fuck up, shit gets lost and these things happen. Cant add much more to that than I already have.

And yes Fishy expect it at any time, either be afraid or lubed up. The choice is yours. Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Fri 10 Aug 2012, 17:24

E11 was an inside job..
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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Sun 12 Aug 2012, 01:45

E11

Are you saying that the sub, the postcode area of the Leytonstone district covering Leytonstone, Wanstead, Snaresbrook and Cann Hall or a type of screw is a conspiracy, your loosing me here bud and I have been keeping up with you until this point. And I have to admit its been enjoyable, I love a good discussion on the forums.

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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Sun 12 Aug 2012, 15:59

Maybe he means 9/11? Thats supposed to be a conspiracy according to some.

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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Sun 12 Aug 2012, 20:22

yea i thought he meant 9/11 and some of the conspiracys are rather compelling around that Razz
bombs planted in the buildings and such
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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Sun 12 Aug 2012, 22:15

We are just rolling from one conspiracy theory to the next now ffs. Laughing

I thought maybe he was referring to his love of that band from the 90's E17 (East 17) but until he confirms either theory its all conjecture. And considering his team won the Community Shield today (grats btw bro) we wont be finding out until he drags his sorry arse from the pub and sobers up. drunken

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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Mon 13 Aug 2012, 17:45

Theres now a conspiracy about my theory of E11!

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=234155

I must of been drunk as fuck that night!
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PostSubject: Re: Yanks   Mon 13 Aug 2012, 18:05

lololol
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